You now have both hands on the club, left arm sitting somewhat uncomfortably on top of left chest, left shoulder is higher than the right (which means spine is tilted slightly to the right), right arm is soft at the elbow, right shoulder tucked back and down, club is pointed straight out from belt buckle. I also checked out Craig Stadler's, and he, too, is very steep. Keep your hands in front of the chest, Mizuno ST190G atmos 6s So try to base your decision on your need for mobility, not so much on how wide your shoulders are. That sets the ball itself just slightly left of your zipper. A bit like throwing a ball, you can actually lob it with a minimal backswing because the power is all in the follow-through. I used to do this all the time but some how you just forget some of these important set up features. Dare I say a more stack-n-tilt backswing has help me tremendously, but I won't get into those specific "labels" here. 2. But it does simplify the golf swing to the bare essentials and the closer you can get to this action the better your swing and the results will be. Golf Setup Lesson - Foundation for a Golf Swing - Herman Williams Golf Herman. Exo #7. Lord help me to be the person my dog thinks I am, [quote name='scotee' timestamp='1386387668' post='8261613'] This set up video is awesome. I feel you are great instructor so I want to stay with your teaching entirely now. As for setup changes, I find that I play better with my feet pointed more right of my target but my shoulders parallel left. that's pretty big. I Just wanted to say hello and like the way you teach. I am now 58 my handicap is 14.6 but lately I have lost a lot of distance and should probably be 18, I was never a massive hitter, probably 230 with the driver from a solid shot but now I am lucky to hit 180, 7 iron 110 all perfectly straight. First I must say you are one hell of an instructor. Remember to hit that LIKE button if you enjoyed it :) NEW VIDEO EVERY DAY ON MY CHANNEL-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------My Links:Facebook http://bit.ly/PFGolfFacebookTwitter http://bit.ly/PFGolfTwitterInstagram https://instagram.com/peterfinch/ Web http://bit.ly/PFGolfPro----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Download the Pin Seekerz app here!iPhone: http://bit.ly/1BIhrnH Android: http://bit.ly/1BIhrnH I deliver straight talking, easy to follow, honest, professional, calculated advice to all of my viewers from beginner to tour pro. Thanks, Cant wait to apply this into my routine so all the other tips and compensations might not be needed. I certainly didn't intend it that way, so perhaps I should phrase my problem differently . I do have 1 question on the address you mention the golf shaft points at the belt buckle however there is a lot of info out there saying the shaft should point to left hip at address and if you look at top tour players like Rory McIlroy they do tend to have this lean of the shaft. Do you agree? is Pure Gold. Try to talk to a good clubfitter if possible. Club fitting is very important but your address and set up is key. So, I went with a neutral grip. This keeps the right shoulder back and the shoulders square to the line. Told Mrs. DGA3 about my post, and she teased me, saying, "They're going to think you are bragging about yourself!". The Mrs. Was right, but we are all golfers here, so that's what we do, no need for 2nd post. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Great question wrists do uncock slightly. I am taller and thinner than you, but I spent a lot of time swinging the way it sounds you do, Not before I got in front of a mirror after reading many posts on the subject here did I realize that I had no "up" to my swing. The basics of a good golf swing, explained in 2 simple moves - Golf Digest Peter has generously given us a copy to give away. Thank you! Hi Herman! But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. Otherwise, your on-line tutorials have been very helpful. This is the best explanation that I can find. We literally use the club as a yardstick to measure the body distance from the ball. Consequently, my backswing is very short. Duly noted well use bottom or tail for those down under thanks. It was all "around." Not exactly short and stocky though. In Photo 2 I'm using a credit card, which is thin enough to demand that you keep that left shoulder and upper arm connected to the torso, but light enough to not interfere with the swing. on Golf Setup Lesson Pt 1- Foundation for a Golf Swing, So how do we setup to make a golf swing and avoid becoming a tourist attraction like the Leaning Tower? Your left arm is probably already touching your left pec at address after 900 it just rides up a bit. Duly noted Ill try to get some specifics soon on driving. If you suspect this problem, literally stick your feet together (ankles touching) and hit a few drives. Any advice would be wonderful. Thick Chest - Instruction & Academy - GolfWRX Sometimes I feel like they are cocked and that I hit better. Pasted as rich text. If you are hitting it straight and getting a divot past the ball, keep going like you are. I am working on it though. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. Look at BrianL99's post. [/quote] Mike Dunaway played football at Arkansas, I believe, and was rather stocky. 5-PW: Callaway X Forged '13 w/ Project X Pxi 6.0 Wishon 775HS 22*, 25* Swing suggestions for my unusual body type . . . - Instruction What I now realize is that turning my left arm to the two-knuckle grip position naturally gets my left arm on top of the pec and helps tuck the right should in as well, freeing up my back-swing. But at the end of the day you want to get rid of the interference your chest creates regarding the armswing. So much better to understand what you are doing instead of just being told and not knowing why you do what you do or why things will go wrong. My right shoulder sets up below the left, but my right hip is tends to get higher than the left resulting in either a vertical or reversed spine tilt. It never is! Ill also say unfortunately for most amateur players there is no continuing descent, so center still works best anyway as it truly is the bottom of their swing. 2023 JM Eagle LA Championship (April 27-30), Moi matched my iron set, now living on the heel, Diamana PD 50TX; Diamana TB 80TX; Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore 52/10; Best Grip Microperf Midsize Augusta grips. I am looking forward to the next video and some warmer weather so I can get my clubs checked and re-gripped. Herman. [/quote] In this video Mark Wood PGA Advanced Professional shows you a great. As you turn your body and swing the arms in front of your chest, picture your left arm rotating and your wrists setting so the water will leak out gradually on a line between your feet and the ball. Your setup helped a lot and I got to identify, using your T, that the leading edge of my club was actually 5 deg+ open all the time. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. Lofts 18 , 21.5, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 49, 53, 58. Upload or insert images from URL. One advantage is normally you can generate quite a bit of power with a short swing. Really great explanations of the mechanics and cause/effect of doing things right or wrong. Hybrids: Honma TW747 22* / 25* Im a width guy (strong guy with a developed chest and strong lats and deltoid although i dont go to the gym. Monte has a video on this and has talked about it plenty on this forum. Hope it helps! I generally recommend setting the feet just slightly wider than the hips so you see a slight flare to the legs like the trunk of a tree, but nothing too excessive. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. So if you imagine a point in the centre of your chest as the club is taken away and the shoulders begin to rotate. I finally understand how to turn so the head stays centered and the shoulders are not too flat and I don't have to lift the arms. While working on getting my left arm on top of my pec, I was neglecting what I was doing to grip the club with my right hand. Your description of how to fix your setup was perfect. If you have any suggestions to help my setup, particularly the hip issue, Id appreciate it. If ball is truly too far forward you might pull it or hit it fat/thin. Rich, most golfers report that same perception. I'm looking for suggestions or thoughts about what an effective swing would be for this type of body. No, you just pick the ball up and throw it in one natural movement and without a thought. My chest is thicker than average and after laying my arms over my chest in the set up I have to bend over farther than normal in order to get my arms to hang freely. Ive tried to visualize an imaginary obstacle in front of me as I setup to the ball to see if I can get the same results, but it has not been particularly effective. Can you give me some advice? ABC123 Golf Academy Instructor, Lookup member hstead and his progress threadbiggest upper body of any golfer I've seen SWING THE GOLF CLUB MORE AROUND YOUR BODY - YouTube Problem for me is getting arms moving before the right shoulder which then causes my left bicep hits my pec very quickly and everything stops. When I was about 18, I had a wrist operation that afterwards made my wrist sore if I used my normal two-knuckle grip. Keep up the great work. 3 Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15* w/ Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 76g Ironically, if I need to hit a high shot (say over a tree), I seem to make some of my best swings (I imagine it has to do with my setup and the need to get the ball up rather quickly). When I considered that, I thought - maybe she's right! Oh wait thats not correct. Thank you!!!!!!!! Swing tips for senior golfers: As natural as throwing a ball See What Members Are Saying! Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 XXIO X Series 5 Wood! There will definitely be a learning curve involved to get comfortable again and time everything. Its never too late to figure it out and start getting better. Also a few good techniques to help square the face. ENTER NOW! I have always wondered what it feels like to swing for a guy that is very flexible and thinner? I am working on it though. It got to the point that I couldnt even find a comfortable or reliable position at address. I posted some of this in another thread recently but i'll link you some of these video's of great warm up routines that should improve your mobility. Ken, Thank you, Ken. I like that thinking mans golf coach. Ive always felt like you deserve to know why you are doing something beyond the standard reason my pro told me too. Its a lot easier to stay committed when you completely understand where youre coming from and where youre trying to go. One advantage is normally you can generate quite a bit of power with a short swing. There are definitely advantages and disadvantages. (UK). Herman. You mean a golfer exists with a bigger chest than me? Very interesting; my thoracic is trashed and not going to get better, and I've been considering this change myself. How to Get the Body to Pull the Left Arm Down in the Golf Downswing - Chron (Im left handed). Ive started thinking of the old glove under the arm pit drill, except this time with the right arm. There are definitely advantages and disadvantages. Also, I think width is more important for a big guy vs depth. Watching the Stadler video convinces me to go back to my natural, upright motion. 1) If ball is too far forward, club path will already be coming back to the left and cutting across so ball will have cut spin on it. My problem on the way down is dropping my right shoulder down too much instead of taking it out to the ball. At 285 and wearing a 54 long jacket, I struggle with a one plane move. I was glad to see him win. By Peter Dawson, a prominent European Tour player in the 1970s and the first left-hander to play in the Ryder Cup, noticed a gap in the market for a coaching manual with tips for senior golfers. Related: Keep your feet together to improve your chipping. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. Hogan had great leg drive and fast hips considering his major injuries from the car wreck in 1949. Once you have established the left hand grip, raise the left arm up on top of and across the chest (tricep lays on the pec.) Groove the rotation you will need to pull your left arm in the downswing. So key for me is shoulder first then arms while keeping width which again is hard for me. Ive begun my yearly review of what I did last year; so I can be better this year. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. Fortunately, it's also the easiest to fix. I'm not learned enough to explain the three-barrel part but was a lurking member years ago there, and it was certainly an information-packed place. The 4 Barrel Hit: Swinging AND Hitting | Golf Lag Tips Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. Yes, the word Fanny can be used in a different context here in Oz but I dont believe anyone would be offended. Herman. Miguel, The best way to test this is to see what length you hit most easily centered in the clubface. It actually should not be soled completely flat. The target is going to be 225lb again. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. At this stage, we are ready to finish assembling the golf stance. GIVEAWAY! Thirdly when you arrive at top of backswing with the arm up on top of chest and elbow pointed down, you are in a stronger physical position to pull down with tricep and lat muscle. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. Were no different take all the time necessary to create the setup and aim the shot; slowly, carefully march the setup over to the ball; waggle to count down and relax; then press the button triggering the motion the swing itself is over in less than a second and a half. 4) Hip speed will ruin your driver swing until youve had time to master your hands. Does the face just look bad or is the shot also flying offline? Hi Herman, Once the grip is established, make sure the lead arm (left arm for right-handed golfers) is sitting on top of the chest. What I witnessed has me hoping this tournament crashes and burns in tremendous fashion. I took up golf when I hit the age of 50, I used my friends 7 iron and hacked my way around a local course and became addicted, I had a couple of lessons along the way from a pro and started to read / watch videos on the net. If this helps you, heres what I do that more often produces nice shots (i.e. Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard 31Oct2014 RockBurke 848 subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 8 years ago Show more Dalton McCrary 8 years ago New Thorbjrn. Ive played on and off for years but the past year Im more dedicated than ever to being 5 or less handicap. Is that the answer? Herman. 1. I thought about buying new clubs but decided to put the money into fitness and some lessons: I'm confident that it will have much better results (short and long term)! How can low point of swing be in center of stance? 1 swing feeling that will instantly improve your backswing - Golf I cant seem to correct it. Thanks for the compliments and I hope you see continued improvement in your game. Herman, That kind of swing might be good for long drives, but it's probably not the most consistent for every day golf. Look on the bright side: at least you'll never have arm overrun. Place an alignment rod under your toes and make some swings. The way you explain the golf swing is clearly the best available your tip on squaring but also uncocking the left hand at impact has transformed the way I impact the ball and resulted in a straight penetrating ball flight. Keep up the good work and I will continue to keep in touch. Maybe in the future. [*][size=4][color=#008000][b]Ping G410 3 wood, Mitsubishi Diamana BF[/b][/color][/size] Only you can judge if its worth that. A few things could be going on, so youll need to test one at a time in the following order. Much appreciated. Callaway JAWS Raw 52* 56* and 60* Set the feet just barely wider than the hips, toes turned out about 5 degrees on each foot, and start to bow from the hip sockets as you also let the wrists drop. Fred. Secondly, with arm laying on top of chest, the arm does not need to roll out around the chest as we go back in backswing. When I watch the professionals most dont seem to have such a position, in fact they look a little slouched and bent over in the upper thoracic/neck area (Phil, Ernie Els). MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! So my feet and shoulders do not match. Elbows to chest In the clip, which you can watch in full below, Hogan suggests starting by making small swings, with your. Sign up here for our newsletter and you'll never slice a drive again. It has been historically taught that way, but there is no biomechanical reason or advantage to changing the stance widths. Ping TR Anser 1966/ 34 My quick answer is bend over and tell those folks to leave you alone. Among Boomer's timeless lessons was . I have been struggling greatly with my game over the last few years. Taking nothing away from their records or great swings, Phil and Ernie are admittedly a little overweight up top and may not be awesome role models in the posture department. Oh great, now Im even more confused. Maybe we can get her to chime in? Extend rear leg on the BS and shift to right leg. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. If you are strong but lack mobility, especially in thoracic spine, you should be a 3 barrel hitter. Jack Malzahn 336.457.1642. Thanks for commenting. that's a great video, [quote name='Yuck' timestamp='1386334930' post='8257473'] To initiate your. Assume your address position without a club or ball. With this grip I swing in-out and hit nice draws but occasional hooks.maybe a hosel here and there. Its about finding what works for your body type. Now, this is not possible for all golfers due to age, suppleness, or injury. I do have a touch strong but not real strong took a look in the mirror it appeared too strong because of the left arm hanging or relaxed too much. Bowing over more from the hips in the setup will allow a little more room for the arm to sit on top of chest and still comfortably hang to the ball. Great architecture, it took over 175 years to build, and its now over 800 years old. Again thanks for your rapid response. Clear editor. I played football at 238lbs, full back, and used to lift a lot. The best bet is to maintain the natural slight S-curve of the spine that you have when standing looking straight ahead and then bow from hips. Yes right arm must fall close to body on downswing. Great observation, Jim, and thanks for paying such close attention. Thanks. We swing harder/faster and outrun our ability to rotate the face. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. I also used to waggle my hips forward and back slightly before setting my weight to the back foot and beginning my take-away. Promise. Watch the 2nd video starting at the 2:00 mark, no forcibly twisting of the lower spine. When my shoulders turn 90 degrees, my arms can only get to the 9:00 position (looking heads-on, where 6:00 is at the ground and 12:00 is above the head). I know youre very busy so when you get a chance to answer itll be highly appreciated. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. LaterOn61, November 21, 2013 in Instruction & Academy. Lookup member hstead and his progress threadbiggest upper body of any golfer I've seen More speed ? 2023 HomeTown Lenders Championship (Korn Ferry Tour) - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Zurich Classic - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 RBC Heritage - Discussion and links to Photos, 2023 Valero Texas Open - Discussion and links to photos, 2023 WGC Dell Technologies Match Play - Discussion and links to photos. If it is easy to turn etc.? Thanks! Clearly, when I shifted too far right I threw my spine angle way off. That's about what a skinny person's natural swing will be. Your email address will not be published. Then repeat it with your eyes shut and try to imagine you are swinging a golf club. The path can cause the shank as the club tries to keep extending out away from the body near impact. Thanks for the information on the setup. Next month Ill buy a new set of irons. The second thing: get fitted for clubs. Another thing I think I need to work on is stretching. Thanks for stopping by to comment on the blog. when i lift my tricep on top of my pec, i feel a lot of tension in my left arm, mainly the upper part of my arm and left shoulder, does this sound like a correct feeling ? My swing looked ok, but it too often felt like my gears were grinding as I tried to find the slot at the top of my back-swing. I don't care what guys say, [b]the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. Given that you are placing the ball in the middle of your stance, wouldnt your stance be wider depending on what club you are using? Over time, not playing nearly as much as my kids grew up, I lost the muscle memory for my natural stance. [/quote] hit is with so much authority But understanding that this is the power generator for hitting the ball far and . ProV1X. But heres a question: say for a 9iron, the offset will leave the face of the club look closed (I am playing Mizuno JPX800 iron set), and its almost impossible to make it look square. Swing suggestions for my unusual body type . Titleist TSi 16.5 Graphite Design AD DI 7S Learn how your comment data is processed. Epic Fail. [quote name='LaterOn61' timestamp='1385085653' post='8187280'] I was fighting a slice and always felt I had a flaw somewhere that had to be addressed. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAP7cA8kq9U"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAP7cA8kq9U[/url] You dont stand there, painstakingly line yourself up, and then start thinking about the angle of your hand and arm as you draw your arm back to throw. The final step in our setup is to simply march over to the golf ball. In Australia it has a very different meaning which would offend many people. Should I feel relaxed in my wrists with no wrist cock at set up or is it alright to have a little bit. But because of a bad foundation, its just a tourist attraction now. I can keep my knees straight and put my palms on the ground, so my back and hamstrings are way flexible. But for the purposes of this article, were going to gloss over grip, assuming you have the details of hand position already figured out. I have lost significant distance, consistency and golf balls trying to get flatter and deeper. Distance? Basically, it's a three-step process, Hogan says. Herman.
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